{"id":26,"date":"2015-08-23T22:10:00","date_gmt":"2015-08-23T22:10:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ethanlewis.org\/cap\/2015\/08\/23\/a-private-school-college-counselor-learns-about-independent-college-counselors\/"},"modified":"2019-04-20T14:51:39","modified_gmt":"2019-04-20T19:51:39","slug":"a-private-school-college-counselor-learns-about-independent-college-counselors","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ethanlewis.org\/cap\/a-private-school-college-counselor-learns-about-independent-college-counselors\/","title":{"rendered":"A Private School College Counselor Learns About Independent College Counselors"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">Since I started working for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.methodtestprep.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Method Test Prep<\/a> this summer, I have had the chance to speak with school guidance counselors and administrators from all over the country, as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.methodtestprep.com\/schools\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">our company partners with schools<\/a> to provide access to high quality test preparation materials to students. When I was told that we also make partnerships with independent educational consultants (IECs), I was surprised, because I didn&#8217;t think that was a large market. Boy, was I wrong! Like many,\u00a0I was aware of the (thankfully, isolated) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/2014\/11\/10\/is-a-college-planner-really-worth-it.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">stories of parents paying tens of thousands of dollars\u00a0<\/a>for what they hoped would help their child gain admission to a most selective college, but in the last two months I&#8217;ve had the chance to meet and get to know quite a few IECs, and it turns out that\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.entrepreneur.com\/article\/190442\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">there are thousands of people providing private college consulting<\/a>\u00a0to clients in the United States, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oacac.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">many more working overseas<\/a> to help students gain admission to American colleges and universities. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.iecaonline.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Independent counselors offer a wide array of services<\/a> to their clients, at a wide range of prices, and are <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nacacnet.org\/Pages\/default.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">fully equal members of the National Association of College Admissions Counselors (NACAC)<\/a>, the same group that school based counselors and college admissions officers belong to. The more I&#8217;ve spoken with the IECs the more I realized that they fill a valuable niche in the college admissions process, and their efforts complement the services offered by schools while also offering specialized services to specific audiences. Since other counselors or parents may be like me and have limited experience with independent counselors, I wanted to share the information I&#8217;ve gained from my conversations with these professionals.<\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">****<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<p><a style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\" href=\"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-e1hD5FJfjEQ\/VdocQ06NJDI\/AAAAAAAABFc\/6Ht_qyBHcww\/s1600\/logo-assoc.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-e1hD5FJfjEQ\/VdocQ06NJDI\/AAAAAAAABFc\/6Ht_qyBHcww\/s200\/logo-assoc.png\" width=\"200\" height=\"100\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">Between 1996 and 2015 I was a teacher at small, private, day and boarding schools in New England and Pennsylvania, and for the last eight years I served as a college counselor. \u00a0During my career I came to take for granted the excellent college counseling resources my schools provided including, but not limited to:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">\u2022 counselors who knew their students very well, often serving as their teachers, advisors and coaches in addition to their formal college guidance relationship.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">\u2022 counselors who worked with a manageable number of students. I never had more than 25 seniors and 25 juniors to work with at any given time, for instance (though I also taught 3 classes and coached a varsity sport).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">\u2022 a school culture that emphasized college above all else, and provided counselors with ample travel budgets to go visit schools all over the country (and <a href=\"http:\/\/captip.blogspot.com\/2013\/07\/so-you-dont-have-to-notes-from-visits.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">in some cases blog about them<\/a>).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">There is no doubt that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.privateschoolreview.com\/blog\/college-counseling-in-private-high-schools\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the college counseling department is one of the main reasons why parents choose to send their children to private schools<\/a>, and it is probably the best reason; after all, great teachers can work at any kind of school,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.seattletimes.com\/seattle-news\/education\/does-class-size-matter-research-reveals-surprises\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">small class sizes don&#8217;t always result in better educational outcomes<\/a>, and there can be an opportunity cost of spending thousands of dollars on secondary (let alone primary) education. But having experienced college counselors who are able to focus strictly on the college process (as opposed to social and personal counseling) is a distinct advantage.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">We can contrast this to my own experience when I attended high school in the 1980&#8217;s. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.centennialsd.org\/wt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">My school<\/a>, in a suburb of Philadelphia, had over 1,800 students for grades 10-12; there were 600 students in my graduating class, of whom about 250 went to college following graduation. The school had 6 guidance counselors who were responsible for academic advising, college counseling, personal counseling and processing forms (such as working papers and absence excuses). My counselor was very friendly and refreshingly honest, but I was disappointed when he told me that since my plan was to go to college out of Pennsylvania, he wouldn&#8217;t be able to help me much. You can dismiss this as a relic of Reagan era policies, but the overload has only become worse over time. During the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Great_Recession\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Great Recession<\/a>, states slashed education budgets, cities lost tax revenue, and guidance counselors were among the first positions cut. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.com\/melissa-harris-perry\/who-going-help-me-philly-schools\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">In Philadelphia, for instance, schools with less than 1,500 students only had one counselor<\/a>\u00a0in 2014. It is hard to imagine that such overworked professionals can give meaningful help to their students, despite the best of intentions.<\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">****<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a style=\"clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;\" href=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-CoXakyiZOE0\/Vdob3KckBrI\/AAAAAAAABFU\/x536uvLFpE0\/s1600\/IECA-Logo1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-CoXakyiZOE0\/Vdob3KckBrI\/AAAAAAAABFU\/x536uvLFpE0\/s200\/IECA-Logo1.jpg\" width=\"178\" height=\"200\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">I&#8217;ve spoken to over a dozen independent consultants from all over the country (and to two who work with students in Europe), and in my conversations I learned that their outlook, approach, and styles are very similar to that of mine and my school-based colleagues. In fact, many of them have spent years working in public and\/or private schools prior to striking out on their own. Like me, they want to make sure that families focus on &#8220;fit&#8221; and work to make sure that students put their best foot forward throughout the admission process. This shouldn&#8217;t be a surprise; after all, most of their clients are public school students whose parents worry that their children will not get close attention from school guidance counselors. These parents feel that several hundred or a few thousand dollars targeted on college guidance is a more efficient use of their economic resources than tuition to a private school.<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">That said, all of the IECs I spoke with told me that they also work with students at private schools. What was interesting to me was that a fairly common refrain was that private school college counselors do not welcome the chance to partner with IECs. More than one independent counselor told me that they feel distinctly unwelcome at gatherings of college counselors, and that private school college counselors have told their students that they think it is redundant for students to seek help outside of the school. As a result, some have left it up to students and their families to decide whether or not to share with school counselors the fact that they are also working with IECs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">When I first heard this I was disappointed, but I heard it over and over again. My personal perspective is that students should get help from as many sources as they can (such as college counselors, parents, clergy or other advisors) and I know that I never worried about competition. More than one IEC I spoke with told me that they don&#8217;t want to <b>replace<\/b>\u00a0school college counselors, they just want to help students use their school counselors to the best of their ability.\u00a0\u00a0I feel bad for students who think that they have to hide something from their college counselor, because I always strove to have a very open and honest relationship with the kids I worked with.<\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">****<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">In my role as a college counselor it was very convenient for me to find students at school and I could pretty much always meet with them face to face whenever I needed to. Working as I did at a boarding school, I was used to interacting with students day and night, and often responded to emails at all hours. I was very impressed to learn that IECs also tout their willingness to work with students when they need it, and how expertly they use modern technology to make this possible. Many of the IECs use Skype or FaceTime to video chat with students, and nearly all of them use GoogleDocs to collaborate on personal essays. An unexpected (to me) benefit of this is that the independent counselor and her student do not need to be in geographical proximity. Some of the IECs work with students from multiple states (and countries); they find that working on their own allows them to adjust as necessary to time zone differences and give the kids the help they need when they need it. What this means is that families can choose the best IEC they can find, and do not necessarily need to restrict their search to the local area.<\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">In my experience, families usually seemed to trust the school&#8217;s college guidance department and I did not encounter many &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Helicopter_parent\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">helicopter parents<\/a>&#8220;. I asked each of the IECs about their clients, and specifically asked who they thought they worked for. I was very interested to learn that nearly all of them perceive the <b>students<\/b> as their primary client. That said, none of them will start working with a student without having at least one (preferably face to face) meeting with parents to go over expectations. While the college search is mainly up to the student, the decision of where to matriculate is a full family decision. In many cases I worked with students for years and never interacted with their families, so I think it is excellent that IECs make a point to meet the parents.<\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"text-align: center;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">****<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">In my previous job I would start to work with students in 10th grade, at which point I would introduce college search tools available on Naviance and on the web,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wyomingseminary.org\/page.cfm?p=2119\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">describe the general college timeline<\/a>\u00a0and come up with a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.methodtestprep.com\/students\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">standardized testing plan<\/a>. In 11th grade I would meet with students in December and based on an in-depth interview, generate a preliminary list of 20+ colleges for them to research. Students were encouraged to reshape the list on their own by August of 12th grade, and meanwhile we spent time honing <a href=\"http:\/\/www.commonapp.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Common Application<\/a> essays. Once senior year began kids would have a final list of schools, and we would work closely to make sure that the applications were filled out completely and effectively. By &#8220;effectively&#8221;, I mean that I worked to help make sure that when students described their roles in various activities they did so in the most helpfully descriptive way possible. I also wrote the school statement, and shepherded teacher recommendations.<\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<p><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">Independent counselors do not have the opportunity to write a recommendation for their students, and they often do not know the teachers at their clients&#8217; schools, but otherwise the work they do is pretty similar to what I did. That said, for every parent who starts working with an IEC in 10th grade, there are more who don&#8217;t hire someone until senior year, which naturally makes things much more intense and rushed. Nevertheless, the IECs I spoke to strive to get to know their students well enough to provide meaningful advice. Many described to me the approaches they take with students to help them decide which teachers to ask for recommendation letters. I was surprised to hear that it was essentially the same conversation I had despite my having the advantage of knowing the teachers and their reputations (as well as their letter-writing ability).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">Like me, independent counselors visit colleges and universities to build their &#8220;college knowledge&#8221; and quite a few of them make an effort to meet with traveling representatives of college admission offices. Another interesting thing I learned is that many IECs specialize, choosing to work with, say, athletes, or artists, or international students. This specialization can give them a wealth of detailed information that can help students in that particular niche. In my own experience, I was more of a &#8220;generalist&#8221;; but I think that if families can find someone who can prove that they have extensive experience working with a particular group of students it may well be worth the cost to form a working relationship.<\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">****<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<p><a style=\"clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\" href=\"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-brG3pqgXVzs\/VdofhYqnomI\/AAAAAAAABFs\/1NQr1GRy1j8\/s1600\/college-fund-image.jpg\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-brG3pqgXVzs\/VdofhYqnomI\/AAAAAAAABFs\/1NQr1GRy1j8\/s320\/college-fund-image.jpg\" width=\"213\" height=\"320\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">When I first set out to talk with independent counselors, I was curious how they set their prices and how they felt about charging for their services. Several of the IECs I spoke to had received a\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.uclaextension.edu\/teachers_cert\/Pages\/edCnslPsy_colCnslCert.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">professional certificate through UCLA, or other institutions<\/a>\u00a0and they told me that pricing was an important subject they learned about during that process. Others surveyed their markets&#8211;New York City, for instance, can bear much higher fees for service than my new hometown of Richmond, Virginia. Some told me that they actually struggle with the fee-for-service model and have considered returning to work at a school.<\/span><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">Parents pay for private college counseling either directly (when they hire an IEC) or indirectly (when they send their child to a private school).\u00a0In my previous job it was easy to think that I was above any commercial interests, but that was just me being delusional. A college education might be the most expensive thing anyone ever buys, and parents are justifiably worried about &#8220;getting it right&#8221; for their offspring. \u00a0If families can afford it, why wouldn&#8217;t they want to invest a little money upfront to make sure that their children can attend the college that will fit them the best? And just like any good private school will strive to create a financial aid package to allow qualified kids from lower and middle income families to afford the cost of attendance, many of the IECs I spoke with told me that they have sliding cost scales and often do <i>pro bono<\/i>\u00a0work.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">If you are a parent or student considering hiring an IEC, you might want to consider asking the following questions:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\"><i>What is your background? Have you worked in college admissions? A high school guidance office?<\/i> &#8211; There is no &#8220;right&#8221; answer, but more experience helps.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\"><i>What national and\/or international organizations do you belong to?<\/i>&#8211; Again, this might not mean very much, but if they at least make an effort to keep up with best practices and current trends it will augur in their favor.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\"><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\"><i>How often will we meet (face to face or electronically) and what will those meetings cost?<\/i>&#8211; The optimal numbers here may be up to you, but it will be good to get expectations (and requirements) in writing at the outset. Also, knowing the sum of predicted expenses at the start of the process can avoid any unfortunate surprises and the acrimony that can accompany them.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\"><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\"><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\"><i>What will you do to make sure that the student completes assignments on time?<\/i>&#8211; Teenagers rarely listen to their parents, but they often listen to other adults. It is likely that an IEC will be able to get your student to meet deadlines, but you might want to inquire what methods the counselor uses, and how successful they have been.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: merriweather sans; font-weight: 300;\">This article only skims the surface of what I learned in my discussions with independent college counselors. I learned a lot about a side of my own business to which I had previously been largely ignorant. I came away from my discussions very inspired by professionals who, like me, are strongly motivated to help young people achieve their dreams. If you are an independent counselor I applaud you and encourage you to keep up the good work. On the flip side, if you are a school-based counselor, I encourage you to see IECs as potential partners, not as competition.<\/span><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Since I started working for Method Test Prep this summer, I have had the chance to speak with school guidance counselors and administrators from all over the country, as our company partners with schools to provide access to high quality test preparation materials to students. 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